Episode 312: Robby Cobbs

Episode 312: I Used My Boat Money to Start Tech My School with Robby Cobbs

[00:00:30] Fonz: Hello everybody. And welcome to another great episode of my tech life. Thank you so much for joining us on this wonderful day and wherever it is that you're joining us from around the world.

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[00:01:03] Fonz: And today I'm really excited to welcome to the show. Robbie Cobbs, who is here today joining us. And he's going to talk about the nonprofit called Tech My School and just the wonderful mission that they have. And so Robbie, how are you doing this evening?

[00:01:21] Robby: Doing great. Thank you so much for having me a pleasure to be on your show.

[00:01:24] Robby: I've been a fan for a long time and, uh, yeah, a bit surreal being on the show, so I'm ready to get going.

[00:01:30] Fonz: Awesome. Robbie. Well, thank you so much. Like I said, it's great to have you on as a guest and it was great to just connect with you and then learn a little bit more about what you're doing and this mission and That you have through tech, my school.

[00:01:43] Fonz: But before we get into that conversation, Robby, if you can share with us a little bit of your backstory. So we would love for you to just give us a little introduction and tell us what your context is in the world of education.

[00:01:57] Robby: Yeah. Like all the, all the listeners and [00:02:00] followers, uh, I'm at, I'm an educator at heart, I've always been an educator.

[00:02:03] Robby: Uh, started in 2000, uh, in Hawaii, working at some inner city schools there. Then, uh, went back to California. I'm from San Diego originally and started working inner city there for about five years. Uh, after that I went overseas and started working at the American international school systems. And, uh, I was a elementary school teacher to start kindergarten, second, third, fourth, and then, uh, fell in love with technology really in my own core values.

[00:02:30] Robby: I love to learn and I love to serve and help others. With technology, it just fills both of those buckets because you're always having to learn all the time and then you always need to teach people how to use the tech. So, uh, kind of shifted in towards, uh, that as a teacher became the techie teacher and, uh, went back to Silicon Valley, um, got my master's in a tech at San Francisco State and I was working at, uh, You Chung International School there.

[00:02:55] Robby: Right. Uh, by Google campus was a phenomenal place to just, you know, [00:03:00] expand as an educator, really to, uh, delve into the world of ed tech, uh, being kind of at the epicenter right there and, uh, spent three great years there and then went from a fourth grade teacher slash, you know, tech integrator on campus.

[00:03:16] Robby: We were, it was a small school, so I was Basically the tech guy, um, to the American International School of Jeddah in Saudi Arabia, and I was the, um, tech director there for four years, and then from, uh, Jeddah went to the American School of Lagos in Nigeria, and was a tech director there as well for a couple years during those COVID years, um, when I was in Jeddah, That is a place that's I'm not sure exactly the exact term for it, but essentially, it's a place where anything can happen and you have to be prepared and ready so that we're really there's a readiness there.

[00:03:51] Robby: And so, uh, we had remote learning plans and remote days of school and virtual learning days before it was cool [00:04:00] before, you know, COVID happened. So, uh, B Cameron, who's kind of a legend, uh, implemented that with all of the different schools in the Nisa region. And, um, Yeah. So I, I became kind of a virtual or remote learning specialist went to Nigeria to, you know, kind of prepare the school for that.

[00:04:19] Robby: Um, but we were thinking more like Ebola or maybe like a political upright uprising or something like that could interrupt school. And, uh, so developed the, uh, remote learning plan, um, before COVID and we're training teachers prior to COVID. And then when COVID happened, we just, you know, we didn't have to flip a switch.

[00:04:36] Robby: We were just, you know, continued on what we were doing. We just implemented the plan and it was a fairly smooth transition. Uh, we had a great leadership team there that helped really smooth things out. And in that process, I, I burned myself. And many teachers out because we were so good at, uh, you know, replicating the physical classroom into the virtual one.

[00:04:57] Robby: And, uh, I moved to Puerto Rico with my family [00:05:00] to take a one year sabbatical. To write my book on ed tech and, uh, just kind of take a breather, I guess you could say, and I'll leave the story there for the next question.

[00:05:09] Fonz: Wow. That is fantastic. Robbie, just the level of experience that you have. And most importantly too, I I'm just really so interested in the The different viewpoints and perspectives that you were able to learn along the way as educators.

[00:05:21] Fonz: Not many of us have that opportunity that you had to really go overseas also. And then, you know, come back here and then the work that you're doing in Puerto Rico now. And so I, I am just. Like in all of that. And I, so my question before we get into really the heart of the matter too, is was education something that you knew you wanted to do, or was it something that you kind of fell into and then just fell in love with it and just really, um, you know, just went all in on it.

[00:05:51] Robby: Yeah. So, uh, as a child. I was the poorest kid in school. I was Kenny from South Park. Um, I went to a public [00:06:00] elementary school in El Cajon, California, a school called Crest Elementary. And it was, it was a great school. Um, you know, really nice little town, little mountain town, kind of like South Park again.

[00:06:10] Robby: But yeah, I was the poor kid. Um, school was kind of my sanctuary. That's where food was, electricity was, you know, adults who cared about me, all those things that many kids Go through, um, if they have kind of a rough upbringing. Um, but uh, yeah, so school was always a sanctuary. I always felt very comfortable in school.

[00:06:27] Robby: I was good at school, I liked school. Um, but I, I wasn't planning on being a teacher per se. Um, I went to Hawaii my freshman year of college 'cause I wanted to, you know, be in Hawaii. I thought it'd be a great place. I was actually trying to follow Dan Patrick. I was. With the sports editor in high school and loved writing, loved sports.

[00:06:46] Robby: I still do. Um, and while I was there, I got a job at a surf shop. You know, it was like the coolest job you can get in Hawaii while going to, uh, university there. Um, but I needed a little bit more money, went back to the university. I said, hey guys, can [00:07:00] I, you know, get a job at the library working? At the library doing my homework, getting paid to do my homework, and they were like, well, that job's taken, but we have an opportunity for you to work in an elementary school, uh, through the America Reads program, uh, in the inner city schools in Hawaii, um, you know, would you be interested?

[00:07:16] Robby: And I thought about it, and I was like, well, I really wasn't thinking of being a teacher, but You know, I want to be a great dad one day and known little league and all that kind of stuff. So I'll mess around with some kids. And I just, once I got into that classroom, I just, everything came rushing back from those elementary year experiences from all those teachers and all those positive memories I had at school.

[00:07:34] Robby: So it was just such a. Comfortable place for me and a place where, you know, I'm working with kids who really need the help and I'm serving them and it would just felt so great. And that freshman year of university, I knew I wanted to be a teacher. I changed my major. And from that point forward, I was just working in schools, like always interning, always working in schools all throughout college.

[00:07:54] Robby: And, you know, immediately after that.

[00:07:58] Fonz: Okay, so, I gotta ask though, [00:08:00] what was the major that you were intending to follow and then of course now you moved to education?

[00:08:05] Robby: Um, so, I got a journalism major because I thought I was gonna be a sports writer, but again, it was my freshman year, first semester, and then within that first, you know, month or two, I went to a school, and then when I transferred, I figured I'd teach at the elementary school that raised me back in El Cajon.

[00:08:23] Robby: Um, and so I transferred to San Diego state and I kind of asked the counselor, like, so what's the teacher major? What is the major? I don't know what the major is to be an elementary school teacher. Is it called elementary school teaching or what? And they said, no, it's called liberal studies. You get a liberal studies degree.

[00:08:40] Robby: It's, you know, multiple subjects in every subject. So you're kind of knowledgeable on all things. It's a mile wide and a foot deep or whatever. And so that was the major I switched to and took all the classes and for me, I really liked it. Um, simply because I was one of the few guys in the class, so there'd be like 200 women in me.

[00:08:58] Robby: So it was great. [00:09:00] And, uh, yeah, it was just, uh, it was a great experience. San Diego State is a phenomenal school. It's the top education school in the state of California for teachers and, uh, they, you know, they're great. Huge student body. I think it's like, you know, 30, 40, 000 students. Um, I had some wonderful professors.

[00:09:16] Robby: My aunt was also a professor at San Diego state, uh, Stanford, uh, University of Texas A& M. So she was at San Diego state when I was there. So it was great to be on campus when she was there. She was the head of the history department and uh, yeah, I've had such a phenomenal time at San Diego state and I'm a proud alumni, proud Aztec.

[00:09:35] Robby: And I always, you know, follow the program. And I had, uh, Future, um, siblings who went to San Diego State and I, you know, kind of encouraged him. My brother, he's a, uh, a teacher that came through San Diego State. He, he now coaches, uh, high school football in El Cajon at Granite Hills High School, where we all went.

[00:09:53] Robby: All, all of the Cobbs family went to, to Granite Hills High School and he's kind of a local legend there. He won a state football [00:10:00] championship and all that stuff. So, um, yeah, yeah. Just, just a proud, uh, yeah. Aztec and, uh, it was really early in my career. It wasn't one of those situations where I had, like, you know, got a degree in history because I love history and then fell into teaching.

[00:10:14] Robby: It was like I interned freshman year, you know, first semester, fell in love with it and went, went, you know, dove into the deep end straight into it. I knew this is what I wanted to do.

[00:10:24] Fonz: Fantastic. You know, and so right now what I'm picking up though, too, is, Very similar to me growing up in a situation like that, you know, very, very poor, you know, parents, just my dad working out in the citrus farm.

[00:10:38] Fonz: My mom just kind of doing odd jobs and everything, but I never thought I would go into teaching. And as a matter of fact, I always said I will never go into teaching, but I went in just because of that dream of, you know, Hey, I need to take care of my parents and being an only child, the pressure's on. And I know many people have heard the story here, cause I've said it a couple of times, but going into college, I was like, oh, I'm going to go do business, you know, business degree, [00:11:00] make some money, take care of my parents and so on.

[00:11:02] Fonz: And then, you know, fork in the road moment. And then I got into teaching. And I just absolutely fell in love with it, but what I'm picking up, you know, and listening to your story and, and I mean, we'll, we'll definitely dive into the conversation, but I think this really is also what, what I feel I'm picking up from you too, in the conversation and your passion of what you're doing through tech, my school.

[00:11:24] Fonz: org is that being where you were, how you were brought up and how, you know, you went to school, like you mentioned, like, Hey, adults that care about me. for having me. Food and so on. And then going back and maybe kind of seeing yourself a little bit in some of the students just really ignited that passion for you too, as well.

[00:11:44] Fonz: So, you know, I'm sure I just want to ask, you know, did that have a tremendous role in what it is that you're doing now? And especially, you know, all the traveling and so on, was that kind of like your mission to say, Hey, I want to give everybody or as many [00:12:00] children or students as possible, the opportunities?

[00:12:03] Fonz: that I never had or maybe now the opportunities that I have. So just to be that catalyst for them.

[00:12:11] Robby: Yeah, no, thank you for asking the question. And, uh, I wanted to quickly mention before getting into it. Um, my family were also, you know, they were farmers that we were Okies actually. Um, the Cobbs family has been in America since the 1620.

[00:12:25] Robby: So a very long time started out as tobacco farmers from England and they stayed in the agricultural all the way, you know, from. Virginia to Missouri down to Texas and then Oklahoma and then in the 20s the Dust Bowl happened And we were the grapes of wrath. We came to California And you know, they were we were migrant farmers, you know picking fruit and all those kinds of things And then my grandfather, you know built an empire through construction so all the men in my family transitioned from agriculture to construction and the message to me was always Don't do this.

[00:12:57] Robby: Don't don't be a [00:13:00] labored worker. You need to work with your brain. And so I always envision myself wearing a tie. I knew I wanted to wear a tie. And as a teacher, I always did wear a tie. Um, so very, very similar in that sense. But, um, yeah, so, uh, I do have a unique lens in the sense that I've traveled to 60 countries.

[00:13:17] Robby: So I've been able to see a lot of the world, um, Africa, Middle East, I've lived these places, East Asia, Europe, Latin America. You know, the U. S., obviously. So I've seen a bunch of countries, and, um, you know, when I was in Africa, right before we, we came to, um, Puerto Rico, uh, we, we were at the American National School of Lagos.

[00:13:39] Robby: It's a, a wealthy school. Um, it's kind of where all the elites go, you know, the generals, the, you know, the diplomat kids, the doctors, the, the, the business people. They put their kids in these elite schools because it's a pipeline into the U. S., really. And, uh, but we would serve, you know, local schools in the community.

[00:13:56] Robby: We had a program where you bring in local teachers and we teach them about, you know, ed [00:14:00] tech or just basic teaching pedagogy to help the community. Um, we had a program, we were donating, you know, computers and stuff to local schools nearby, you know, part of our purchase, um, program, uh, cycle. And then also, uh, just on a personal level, you know, I would take my children and we go to orphanages and we donate.

[00:14:21] Robby: like toys and stuff like that to, to orphanages in Africa. And whenever I was in those countries, whether it was, you know, Nigeria or India, you know, Kazakhstan, all these different countries that were, let's say less fortunate, um, we would do what we could to, to, to, to help them by, by giving, uh, things to them, you know, computers and services and things like that, but ultimately, um, It was their country and we are a guest in that country, you know, and I'd lived as a guest in the country for you know, a majority of my career Um living as a guest in other countries learning these [00:15:00] cultures and traveling in those things those type of things But when I came to puerto rico, um, I I didn't know a lot about the history of puerto rico.

[00:15:08] Robby: I knew it was beautiful um, and it was america kind of but um, yeah, I just we just kind of You know Came here with open eyes and open ears and open hearts and kind of took things as, as they came. And, uh, after my experience in Hawaii, working in the inner city schools, I figured Puerto Rican education wouldn't be as strong as let's say New York or maybe even Florida, but it would be something similar.

[00:15:35] Robby: Like when you're in a school in Hawaii. Versus school in California, the schools in California typically are stronger. They're better performing,

[00:15:44] Fonz: better

[00:15:44] Robby: resource or the, those kinds of things, but they're not that much different. There's a, there's a drop off a little bit, but it's not, you know, of consequence, let's just say.

[00:15:55] Robby: Um, but coming to Puerto Rico, I was. Absolutely [00:16:00] shocked because I put my boys first We were looking for schools to put them into and then we eventually, you know Bought a house and put our boys in a local school And we were just absolutely shocked at the state of education from the schools. We visited and the ones we chose simply because of that Stark difference in quality from a u.

[00:16:18] Robby: s. Mainland school versus the u. s. Schools in puerto rico So for those who don't know The history of Puerto Rico, um, you know, Puerto Rico became part of America, uh, through somewhat controversial ways, uh, through conquest, um, In the late 1800s and right before world war one every puerto rican became a u.

[00:16:39] Robby: s Citizen, so everyone, you know has the blue passport. They've been america since then Um, there's been some controversial laws that have been kind of strings attached I guess you can say the jones act and those kinds of things but ultimately Everyone here is an American. You see the United States Postal Service, National Park Services, um, you've got U.

[00:16:56] Robby: S. Dollar, Walmart, you know, Wendy's, the whole thing. [00:17:00] Um, Spanish, uh, Spain was here for, you know, many, many years, um, 400 years, 500 years, so we just kind of took it over after the Spanish American War from them, but, uh, so they, they predominantly speak Spanish here, like most of the Latin world. Um, but they're American, so they can come and work and live in Florida or Oklahoma or, you know, Nebraska tomorrow if they want, they just buy a flight, get on a Spirit Airlines flight or United Airlines or whatever.

[00:17:28] Robby: Go there, apply for a job, live and work the same way anyone else goes to any other states. And you really have the same voting power pretty much except for the presidency. So you can vote all the way up into the primary, but after that there's no uh, vote for president, which is kind of part of that original deal that they made.

[00:17:45] Robby: So anyways, uh, with that said, everyone here is an American and my, my lens is simply I'm new to this island. They're American. I'm American. They have a U. S. Passport. I have a U. S. [00:18:00] Passport. And if I go to any of these 60 countries I've been to, that is how you are judged. You're judged by your passport, right?

[00:18:06] Robby: If I'm in Germany, it doesn't matter which town or province I'm in. If you have the German password, you're German, right? And you see a similar level of education. You see a similar level, similar service of everything. And so coming here was shocking because there is a stark difference. And when I put my boys in the school, And when I was in Africa, I was like, this is their country, you know, I'll give them computers, but it's, it's their place, you know, here in Puerto Rico, I immediately felt like this is my country.

[00:18:37] Robby: This is my community. I need, I need to do something to, to, to help these kids because I was talking with students who were 16, 17 years old. They're just graduating or getting ready to graduate high school. They barely spoke English. They had never used a computer before. And if you look statistically where Puerto Rico is at, if you look [00:19:00] at their PISA scores, the last time they took it, I mean, Puerto Rico is the outlier of outliers when it comes to testing.

[00:19:05] Robby: They score statistically worse than Mexico. And me being from San Diego, I was very sensitive to that because I was, I grew up right on the border. I remember going into Mexico as a young person thinking, wow, you know, I'm so fortunate to be born in America instead of being born in Mexico because of that disparity of wealth and opportunity.

[00:19:22] Robby: And so for these American kids to perform worse than Mexico, no offense to Mexico, just that level of, you know, three, four, five grade levels below the U S national average was, was really shocking for me. And it was really just a call to action because. As I was mentioning before, I grew up poor, but I always had public school.

[00:19:43] Robby: And if you go to an American public school, I worked in inner city schools for many years. I've never saw a kid who worked their butt off, who didn't achieve. Like if you worked really hard and just ignored the noise, the family, you know, traumatic things happening to friends who are, you know, in trouble and all that things.

[00:19:59] Robby: If you [00:20:00] can just block that out and just focus on study, pay attention to your teacher who cares about you and just work hard. All of those kids, graduate and become successful. I really believe that. And so they have that rope to pull themselves out of any sort of situation. And that's just the beautiful thing about America is the fact that no matter where you come from, what you look like, what you sound like your accent, it doesn't matter if you work hard, you play by the rules.

[00:20:25] Robby: And, and I'm not saying everyone starts at the same place, but it's just that there is a system, there is a rope system where you can pull yourself out to have a, you know, a good life. And I feel here in Puerto Rico, that rope is gone or doesn't exist or is severely smaller than other, uh, ropes that you'd see.

[00:20:43] Robby: So, um, I, I wanted to create a rope for the, for my fellow citizens, for my fellow Americans, for these Puerto Rican kids who didn't have one, because the state of these schools, you know, the first school I go into, you know, computers are not [00:21:00] really adherent to, to teachers. Kids don't have, it's mostly just look similar to Africa.

[00:21:04] Robby: Honestly, it was you go into a concrete slab where there's a chalkboard. Um, some old desks and a fan and, um, you know, that's it, that's all there is. And, uh, you know, a teacher teaching in a way the best they can, but in a very traditional manner, you know, copy off the board, those kinds of things. And, um, you know, and I, and I see it as this tech person that, I know I can come in and help support, uh, the school.

[00:21:33] Robby: And so that's what I did. I started going into schools and serving.

[00:21:38] Fonz: Robbie, like, that is amazing and very commendable. Like, just listening to your heart and your passion. And it's no wonder, you know, Tech My School is, is, it's doing what it's doing. What you're talking about right now and just bringing, you know, professional development, bringing, you know, just resources to teachers because there, there is a need [00:22:00] there.

[00:22:00] Fonz: And most importantly, like you mentioned that rope, giving them a rope and I love that. So, uh, Robbie, now that we're going to talk a little bit more about what the work, well, you've described really the way the situation is. Why? You know, but now your work through TechMySchool, how did that come about? And one thing that I'm loving though, is like on your mission statement and your core values.

[00:22:22] Fonz: And of course, in the back, in the background, we see the parrot there. And so can you tell us a little bit about number one, TechMySchool, what the mission and vision is, and then just kind of break down, you know, your core values so our audience members can know, you know, the work that you're doing. Also, how might they be able to also help?

[00:22:42] Fonz: And maybe extending a rope and extending that hand to, for the education system. So tell me a little bit more about that.

[00:22:49] Robby: Yeah. So it started with the, the one school, um, that we were serving and I went from new parent to training all staff the first month. And so for any parent who has kids, imagine walking [00:23:00] into a new school and becoming the trainer for all teachers that first month, and, and that's.

[00:23:04] Robby: Not a necessarily, uh, traditional or normal thing to do, but, um, I think that speaks a bit to the, the state of where education is here and also just the, the, the fortunate lifestyle I've had to, to just learn so much in ed tech. Um, you know, prior to my career, I had been a tech director and presented at, you know, a number of great conferences and kind of been a leader in, in that sense.

[00:23:25] Robby: So, uh, there was definite, a big need here. So. We just started out helping one school and, um, you know, I had this money for a boat coming to Puerto Rico. I wanted to write the book on edtech, um, and then buy this boat and I ended up not buying the boat. TechMySchool became my, kind of my boat. I used my boat money to get computers, get software, and just Basically, equip this school, tech this school up, uh, into a place where it could be a little bit more on the 21st century side of things.

[00:23:55] Robby: So, uh, for example, they didn't have an LMS, a learning management system. [00:24:00] They didn't have a student information system. They didn't have emails for the teachers. Everyone was using their personal email, if they even had an email. Um, there was no library, no public library, no school libraries. There was a few books in the classroom, but not a lot.

[00:24:13] Robby: And so, uh, we just, uh, You know, having that tech director lens, I just kind of came in and just did a needs assessment, you know, orally and visually by talking with the teachers and the director and and just looking through the school and immediately got to work, you know, helping the school modernize and just using that money to, um, give these professional trainings to to the teachers.

[00:24:35] Robby: And I had, you know, spent the past nine years giving professional development to staff. So I felt, you know, really comfortable doing so. And, uh, It became an official nonprofit probably a couple months, months into it. Um, I had never worked with, you know, as a nonprofit, I never. Thought I would start a non profit or anything like that.

[00:24:56] Robby: Um, it was just the sense that, like, as I was helping the school, [00:25:00] teachers in a church were talking to another set of teachers and said, Hey, can you help our school as well? There's this, you know, they call them gringos. There's this gringo here. He's helping us with these computers and trainings. Can you help us?

[00:25:11] Robby: And, um, and so we did. We gladly took another school on. And so we started to expand very quickly. And so I started the non profit. The name TechMySchool, um, came from just writing a bunch of names down, asking my friends and colleagues, like, what name should it go with, and when we go into a school, we do a needs assessment, and then, um, We based off that needs assessment.

[00:25:33] Robby: We then create a tech plan and then fulfill that tech plan in partnership with the school. Um, we call this plan the ITP or individualized tech plan, kind of like a school has an IEP, you know, every student is different. ITP every school is different. And, uh, yeah, from this tech plan, we go in and we do a complete audit.

[00:25:53] Robby: Now our lens that, you know, that we had is one that is, from some of the [00:26:00] world's best schools. So it was a very comprehensive process that we went through to build these tech plans, even though the school had relatively nothing, the documentation and the artifacts that we created in the process of doing these tech plans were very comprehensive.

[00:26:14] Robby: Um, because in my mind, I figured, if I'm going to, you know, start with this role and help this school, these schools here in Puerto Rico, why not start to, You know, branch out eventually one day, uh, and help other schools. And so it had to be world class, you know, not just a Puerto Rican only type of, uh, system.

[00:26:34] Robby: Um, so that's how it started. Um, started with building the tech plans and, and serving the schools, trainings, all those kinds of things, donating tech as a former tech director. I know. Um, and anyone listening who's a tech person, what do you do with your old tech in your school? The answer is you put it into a closet because you buy, you know, 25 percent of inventory every year from that 25%.

[00:26:56] Robby: It's sitting there. Um, you put it in the closet in case something [00:27:00] breaks, nothing ever does. And then after a few years, the closet becomes full and you end up calling a recycling company to come take it all away and you pay them money. So I got on the phone and started calling universities, schools.

[00:27:16] Robby: Organizations, companies, meeting people, talking to them, saying, Hey, if you have old tech, use tech, please give it to us because we'll repurpose it and put it into schools. Um, one of the things that we, we noticed was when we were going into public schools, the public school district here gave teachers.

[00:27:34] Robby: Computers once COVID happened, they, they gave everyone kind of computers, but they didn't give them a lot of training. And so after COVID was over, they kind of just took those old computers and stuck them in a closet and went back to their old ways of teaching. Um, and as an, you know, ed tech leader, you know, when it comes to tech professional development, it's not a one time thing.

[00:27:54] Robby: It's gotta be continual. It's gotta be ongoing. Even the tech teachers need support and learning and cause things are evolving [00:28:00] so quickly. So, um, That model of just training teachers all the time and, um, you know, ensuring technology we do get from schools that has repurposed is going to be not only just given to a school.

[00:28:15] Robby: We're not just gonna give them a fish. We're gonna teach them how to fish. We're gonna be Using the tech with them all the time, every month going in their classrooms, observing the teachers, like really becoming that tech department that they don't have and just ensuring we get maximum value of the tech that's donated.

[00:28:31] Robby: So, uh, over the past four years, we've been able to donate over 1000 computers to schools. Um, yeah, and it's all thanks to, uh, the great donors and partners that we've met along the way who You know, helped us, um, we're predominantly funded through, um, you know, donations. So we've, we've now, um, been going for, for, this is our fourth school year, and, um, we've been able to serve thirty schools.[00:29:00]

[00:29:00] Robby: So we started with one, and then two, and then four, and then fourteen, and then fifteen. And so when I say serve, what we do is we again go and we do this I. T. A. Analysis do the I. T. P. The plan and then we just deploy it. So we're in schools every single month giving all staff professional training on a tech and best pedagogy.

[00:29:18] Robby: We are, uh, following those trainings up by going into classrooms and observing teachers and giving them feedback. You know, instructional coaching, um, typed notes and those kinds of things. Um, We're doing parent trainings. We're doing tons and tons of work with these schools and, um, You know, we've just been really fortunate to have just a great team.

[00:29:36] Robby: Um, We have a team that spans from, you know, the Middle East, Africa, In Texas, we have a guy working with us. And then also, um, here in Puerto Rico, we have a lot of local teachers as well. So, um, yeah, just, just a phenomenal, um, experience and just, we're, we're so happy to be, to be a part of this and to be serving teachers and kids and schools, um, you asked about the parrot.[00:30:00]

[00:30:00] Robby: The parrot is the Puerto Rican green parrot. Um, Puerto Rico is known for this indigenous bird. And We're, uh, the city I live in, in Rio Grande, that's on the flag. So part of that branding, I was like, Oh, I want it to be something cool. Something techie. I, I wear polos just. In my life, I always wore like Ralph Lauren polos whatever.

[00:30:21] Robby: And so I wanted to make it a logo to where it'd be cool to wear. Like I could just wear it and,

[00:30:28] Fonz: you

[00:30:28] Robby: know, whether I was wearing it as a, the CEO of the company or just wearing it because I just like the logo. And so, yeah, it's kind of like this techie green parrot. And, uh, If you go on our website, tech, my school.

[00:30:40] Robby: org, you look at our core values. Um, you know, it's the parrot. So obviously you have a Puerto Rican focus. We're trying to bring up the education in Puerto Rico, which is America's lowest performing, most underserved underprivileged, like nothing again, [00:31:00] from anything I've seen, nothing compares to Puerto Rican education in terms of the amount of need, the amount of, uh, you know, statistically where they score the campus when you walk through the schools, you know, the programs or lack thereof.

[00:31:15] Robby: Um, you know, a lot of times in inner city schools, the schools will be funded, there'll be grass fields, there'll be sports programs, there'll be art programs, there'll be teachers who are getting, you know, a decent salary, um, comparative to like, let's say a gas station worker. Um, the problem is really like, Within that community, there's a lot of like poverty and crime and maybe like culturally they don't really value education as much per se.

[00:31:43] Robby: I'm again painting with a very broad stroke here, but in Puerto Rico, it's like you have kids who have great families who value education, who want to improve their life, but it's a system of the schools. that are kind of failing them. And so there isn't that rope for them to pull themselves out of. And that's not to disparage [00:32:00] any of the hard work that the teachers are doing here in Puerto Rico.

[00:32:01] Robby: It's just the reality of, of comparing, you know, a school in New Jersey versus a school in, in Puerto Rico. And so that's why you see a huge, a huge, outflux of Puerto Ricans who leave because they're just like the schools aren't the same quality as they are in the states. I'm an American. I'm just gonna go to Florida or New York or wherever and the kids end up growing up stateside rather than on the island.

[00:32:25] Robby: And because these parents are, it's either go to a public school that's not gonna serve them, uh, to a degree they deserve as an American or, you know, leave the island and And just have that kind of feeling of something left behind. And any Puerto Rican listening to this will know what I'm talking about.

[00:32:43] Robby: Because again, before coming here, I really didn't know that difference.

[00:32:48] Fonz: Wow, Robbie. Well, let's continue with that because not only the work that you're doing is phenomenal. And like you said, you have a great team, but I know also that you will be holding a conference also that is coming up. So I definitely [00:33:00] want to make sure that we amplify the work that you're doing, that it's not just, you know, you and your team that are doing everything, you know, there, I mean, you're bringing some amazing knowledge and you're helping the educators out, but you're also looking beyond.

[00:33:13] Fonz: You know, Puerto Rico and looking into bringing in people that are going to provide professional development, different perspectives, and so on. So tell us a little bit about the, you know, a tech, my school conference that'll be coming up next month.

[00:33:26] Robby: Yeah, so, um, kind of in that same spirit of, you know, thinking of the teachers in Puerto Rico, there's 750 public schools, 750 private schools, and, you know, a lot of teachers, you know, let's say half, are working in these private schools where they're getting paid 1, 500, 2, 000 a month.

[00:33:43] Robby: Um, you know, milk is still seven, eight bucks a gallon here, um, due to the Jones Act and just it being America and a beautiful island that people want to visit. So, um, because of that. Teachers are not living in the same kind of, uh, you know, demographic financially as [00:34:00] you know, teachers do in the stateside.

[00:34:02] Robby: And so they, they are scraping by literally to teach kids. And, um, you know, I was coming from this, prior to coming to Puerto Rico where I was again, very fortunate, but working at some of the best schools in the world, these American diplomat schools that had phenomenal budgets. My tech budget was like a million dollars just for my school.

[00:34:22] Robby: It had like 700 kids or something like that. And, uh, so yeah, I would go to all the conferences. I would travel the world. I would do all these great things. And I just felt like every teacher deserves to go to, you know, a world class school. You know, conference where you can network where you can learn, you can become inspired and you can come back to your school and just kind of spread that, you know, that joy, that excitement and just breathe life into your school.

[00:34:47] Robby: And so that was something that I really enjoyed, both as an attendee and also as a speaker. I'd spoken at, you know, lots of different countries and conferences around the world. So, um, I just felt like the teachers deserve [00:35:00] that here. So Tech My School serves. These local poor schools in Puerto Rico for free.

[00:35:05] Robby: Um, and you know, we're writing these tech, providing the services, we're providing the, you know, all these things. But another part of the profession is getting that networking ability and going to these conferences. So I was like, they deserve that too. And I don't want to just put on some like low budget thing.

[00:35:22] Robby: I want it to be the best. I want to put together a five star world class conference for these teachers. That's forward thinking and ed tech conference. And so, um, It's exactly what we did, and we host it every year at the Wyndham Rio Mar, uh, in Rio Grande. It's a beautiful, you know, five star resort, right on the water.

[00:35:39] Robby: Um, the conference center is great. The, the people who work there are awesome, fantastic. There's two golf courses, El Yunque, it's right on the base of El Yunque, America's, uh, largest rainforest. I think it's the only rainforest, so. beautiful place in this world. And, um, yeah, so for the teachers, we, we pay for their tickets.

[00:35:56] Robby: Well, the first 200. So for the first 200 teachers that sign [00:36:00] up, we pay for their tickets. Um, we pay for their food and the attendance and all that kind of stuff. And then obviously we're flying in speakers, um, from across the states, uh, internationally and, and locally as well. So we want to get a blend of just both the best talent on island and really the best talent yeah.

[00:36:17] Robby: From the states who, who, who can make it. And so, um, it's a bilingual conference and it's the biggest ed tech conference, uh, in the Caribbean. Um, we, we, the way we structure it is, um, Any presenter who's presenting in English will have Spanish slides so the attendees can follow along or vice versa. When we do breakout sessions.

[00:36:39] Robby: You know, whether you want to do Brain Pop in Spanish or Curie Pod in English, you get to choose which, you know, you know, breakout session you want to go to and which language you prefer, but all the slides are available to you so you can kind of follow along and keep track. And then our keynotes will do the same thing.

[00:36:55] Robby: So if they're presenting in Spanish, the slides will be in English. We also have, [00:37:00] uh, we use Time Kettles X1 to, uh, Um, do the translation, the live translation as you're speaking, so you can see both languages. Um, so yeah, it's great. We had great speakers last year. Um, 27 speakers last year. We're going to have, uh, right around 27, 30 speakers, uh, this year.

[00:37:16] Robby: And, uh, it's a phenomenal event and we're so excited to have it. Um, for teachers who are not under the Tech My School umbrella, um, we subsidize their tickets, so for them, it's only 150 bucks for, you know, a five star experience, all the food. The great speakers, and again, in a great spot. And then if you're off island, if you're coming in from Florida, or New York, or Houston, or wherever, um, we only charge you what the hotel is charging us for food, which is 400, uh, uh, for, well, not like food and space, right?

[00:37:49] Robby: AV, space, all that, the internet. Um, so we're just charging, uh, basically at cost. So it's, it's, uh, again, a subsidized event. You're gonna, it's the lowest, lowest price, [00:38:00] highest quality, a tech conference. in America, I'll just say it. And the reason it is, is because it's subsidized through these donations that we're able to, to pull, because we want to bring educators to Puerto Rico so they can really understand that this is their country too, and, and care about the island, meet the teachers here, and we want the teachers here in Puerto Rico to be exposed to, like you're saying, just phenomenal educators and for them to get a world class experience.

[00:38:25] Robby: And so, That's what we're doing. And, uh, yeah, it's March 15th and 16th. Um, this was for 2025. If you're listening to this a year in advance, just go to our website, techmyschool. org, uh, backslash conference to see the latest, um, you know, thing. And then also, if you're a vendor, um, you know, I had went to the FETC conference last month and it was great, you know, lots of speakers and lots of, uh, it was, it was phenomenal because when we are there, we're.

[00:38:52] Robby: We're talking to everyone. We're talking to other vendors because we're looking for partnerships to try to find ways to get teachers [00:39:00] low cost, free software so we can push it into schools here because they, you know, can't afford it. Um, but at the same time, we're reaching out to teachers, trying to get them to go to the conference and just spread awareness and that whole thing.

[00:39:10] Robby: We're serving schools in the states because we do have this world class, uh, Tech plan process product. And, uh, but it costs a lot. I mean, they nickel and dime you when you go there, you got to pay for carpet that costs over a thousand dollars. You want a trash can, that's going to cost you a hundred bucks.

[00:39:25] Robby: You want a TV that's 800. It's like, it's very expensive as a vendor. The space itself is, you know, four or 5, 000 or whatever it was. So. It's very expensive to have these spaces. And for the vendors who are here, we want the teachers to be exposed to these, you know, tech companies coming in. So if magic schools there, if fax is there, you know, seesaw is there.

[00:39:46] Robby: We love that because we want the teachers to see these softwares that we've been bringing to them and for them to meet people. In these companies because it kind of brings it to life. It makes it a little more real and uh, Because of that again, we [00:40:00] charge them Basically what the hotel charges us so it's for a booth.

[00:40:04] Robby: I think it's like 500 bucks Um, and that includes everything you just have to bring your banner or whatever and that you get your food and you get all that Stuff too. So it's the most affordable spot for a vendor as well. And again, we don't just have poor schools. We invite Um every school in puerto rico public schools charter schools The, you know, expensive private schools, because there are, there are some very high quality private schools here on the island as well, and they, those, um, teachers and directors and, and superintendents are going to be here as well, either speaking or attending, um, the, the, the conference.

[00:40:39] Robby: So, it's just, it's, we're trying to make it the best ed tech. Conference in the Caribbean. I think it already is but like we would love for it to be like an FETC like an ISTE You know something like that where people in the region or on the eastern seaboard or even you know Central or even California.

[00:40:59] Robby: They [00:41:00] just know this is a world class experience. We're coming out to Puerto Rico. It's beautiful You know, we're supporting it's for a great cause And it's super affordable and it's just really, really high quality. So those are the kind of the goals that we're targeting.

[00:41:13] Fonz: That is amazing, Robbie. And I mean, just being here on the show today and just for all our listeners that are going to be catching this episode, we'll definitely make sure that we link the webpage, but for any platforms, all of you that are on my network, all my friends that are listening and you're listening to this episode, please, you know, get in contact with Robbie, like let's help.

[00:41:32] Fonz: Out Puerto Rico. Let's make sure that we throw that, that rope, that line, that help, whatever it is, because I mean, we, that's what we're here for is just to help serve our community. And when there's a community in need that we definitely love to help. So Robbie, thank you so much for being here this evening and sharing the work that you're doing.

[00:41:51] Fonz: And it amazes me that this all started because you were taking a break to write a book. Right. Yeah. And now look at what has become. [00:42:00] That's wonderful.

[00:42:01] Robby: Absolutely. I learned something about myself. And this is kind of true for a lot of tech guys, uh, or tech gals. Um, I feel like in my former superintendent, who's a board member and a close friend, um, he used to call me like his, his sports car.

[00:42:16] Robby: And so as tech, you know, people, we have all these great ideas. We have, we're high energy. And we're in the garage of the school and they're like, okay, we'll have you spin around. We'll have you You know, we'll drive you a couple times a year, but that's it You got to sit in that garage all year and just kind of grind your gears thinking of things of trying to ways of to Make an impact Most of the time they're taking the minivan to and from school, right?

[00:42:40] Robby: And that analogy in that sense and so I was always kind of pent up Creating ways when I was working in these schools to teach them to do more. And, uh, by coming here and having this opportunity, there is no ceiling. And because of that, I've just been able to explode and, you know, serve so many schools and, you know, create so many great products.

[00:42:56] Robby: I did write the book. It's called, uh, Tech Centered Learning [00:43:00] Driven. You can check it out on Amazon. Um, and it's for, Tech Centered Learning. Any one of your audience members is intended for your audience. Um, you know, those, those teachers who are looking to use technology to get ahead in, uh, in their careers, um, to discover new pathways, uh, of how you can, you know, expand your career or do more.

[00:43:20] Robby: Um, for those new teachers, we're just trying to learn, like, you know, what's the best way to integrate technology or to, you know, stay ahead or stay ahead of the curve. Um, that's what the book kind of goes through, and it's really just a combination of 15 years of my experience as a tech leader. through the lens I've had and, you know, all these different places, California, Asia, Middle East, Africa, and, uh, and, yeah.

[00:43:46] Robby: And, and, and interviewing. I, I interviewed 20 different, um, you know, tech directors and tech specialists and, and, and educators who own companies in the EdTech space. Um, yeah. So all of their kind of [00:44:00] knowledge and, and, uh, wisdom is, is in the book as well. So, uh, hopefully it's a good read. And, uh, I look forward to writing the next book as well.

[00:44:07] Robby: My aunt's a very distinguished author. She's a New York, uh, best time seller, and there was a time period and your listeners may have experienced this. I'm not going to say I doubted myself, but you kind of second guess, like, am I good enough to write a book, you know, become an author, you know, this pedestaled, uh, person.

[00:44:29] Robby: And so, I wrote the book, and then went through the editing process, and it was on my computer for two years after I wrote it. It took me about a year to write, and then it just sat there for two years. I didn't click play. Publish. I didn't try to, you know, make it happen, um, kind of for self doubt reasons, and I was just, I had to tech my school, it was blowing up, and I was, that was my excuse, but my aunt always said, you know, publish, hurry up and publish your first book, because it's just getting in the way.

[00:44:59] Robby: of [00:45:00] publishing your next. And so, um, because everyone has that imposter syndrome at some point. And, uh, yeah, so once I did it was just such a sigh of relief and I could just move forward on my life with my life. And, uh, my aunt was right. Her name's Elizabeth Cobbs. Look her up. She's great. She's a very, uh, great educator.

[00:45:18] Robby: But, uh, yeah, yeah. Tech, Tech Center, Learning Driven is the name of the book. And I'd love for you guys to check it out.

[00:45:23] Fonz: Excellent. And we'll definitely link it up in the show notes and everything. So guys, please check out the website. Check out the work that Robbie's doing. Check out the book too, as well.

[00:45:32] Fonz: And Robbie, like, I know you say you're, you're, you know, you're going to get started on that second book. So are you going to write the second book there in Puerto Rico, or are you going to find another place to rest for a year and then all of a sudden a new tech revolution is going to show up?

[00:45:45] Robby: Yeah, no, I love Puerto Rico.

[00:45:47] Robby: We bought a house even before Tech My School started. We just bought the house and we love it. Um, which. After traveling to so many different places, we were like, where in the world do we want to live? And Puerto Rico was a place that we chose, like we [00:46:00] knew we wanted to live here. So I think we might be here for a little while.

[00:46:03] Robby: And just the, the level of impact we've been able to make on the community, all the friends and all the schools we're serving, I would, I couldn't turn my back on them. Um, but I have the next book ready to go. The first book has been kind of more of a generalized book about like, how to get into edtech and kind of the purpose of edtech.

[00:46:19] Robby: You know, what's the difference between EdTech and TechEd? Well, the next book is going to be far more, um, niche for the Tech Director, and it's all going to be about that ITA and ITP process, what we're doing at TechMySchool, and how you do it. Basically, how do you, you know, modernize your school and, and ensure you're looking at all the right lenses, and that kind of thing.

[00:46:40] Robby: Because, um, starting from humble beginnings, In Puerto Rico, let's just say, um, we've had the privilege of, of testing, you know, our method methodology out in some really great schools in the States. Um, one of the schools, the first school we, we tried it out on that was of [00:47:00] high power, let's, let's just say it wasn't the first school we worked with in the States, but there are schools in the States that pay us for our services of creating tech plans for them and working with their teams.

[00:47:08] Robby: And that helps fund our mission, um, was a school called Episcopal High School in Houston. And for those who aren't in the Houston area or don't know Texas, it's one of the top schools in Texas. Um, and yeah, we went into that school. I mean, you go to that campus, it's unbelievable, beautiful campus. They have literally everything.

[00:47:28] Robby: money can buy. Um, and so for the students who go there, you know, very fortunate kids, great kids, great staff. Um, and so we were, you know, I walked in there, you wouldn't tell, I came in very confident, but because I had done the process, you know, a number of times, and you know, I reviewed the process with great schools outside of the, you know, that I knew would do well, but still, it was my first time doing it at a, just a first class school, five star school.

[00:47:54] Robby: Um, and, uh, You know, my friend Kyle will tell you, uh, he [00:48:00] was, he was a director of technology innovation there and his thinking. And I told him, I'm like, listen, um, I'm not going to tell you the process. I'm not going to tell you anything about what we do. I want you to experience it as a client and then give me your feedback and just be honest.

[00:48:13] Robby: If we, if we're terrible, we're terrible. We'll get better. This will help us get better when we move to the next one. And he's like, okay. And he was thinking, you know, this little nonprofit from Puerto Rico with the guy that I've worked with in the past, like, What's it going to do? Like, I'm just doing this guy a favor almost.

[00:48:28] Robby: And we went in there and sure enough, we blew them away. He was like, this is the best professional development we've gotten all year. Uh, we were, we were able to help them build a really comprehensive tech plan that, um, really looks at the three facets that we, we really focus on. And that school had all the money in the world.

[00:48:46] Robby: So they were able to solve all the problems that you could solve with money. But when it came to professional learning and for student empowerment, That's where we were able to find some gaps and really add value to their school. And, and, you know, I was [00:49:00] fortunate to be there for a couple of days and work with their tech team to help them build out their tech plan.

[00:49:04] Robby: And, uh, we said just such a great experience doing it. And, um, yeah, it was just a great confidence booster for us just because we're like, We know if we can add value to Episcopal High School, we can add value to any school in the world. And, and we have, we've just done that. We've helped schools in New Jersey and Texas and Oregon and Washington state.

[00:49:22] Robby: So, and we're looking at to add more. So if you're a listener and your school needs a tech plan, uh, you know, give us a try, give us, give a little, little nonprofit in Puerto Rico a chance and let's see what we can do for your

[00:49:32] Fonz: school. Excellent. Well, thank you, Robbie. I really appreciate it. But before we wrap up, we always love to end the show with the last three questions.

[00:49:40] Fonz: And so hopefully, Robbie, you're ready for those questions. So question number one, as we know, every superhero has a pain point or something that weakens him. So for example, Superman, kryptonite just kind of weakened him. So I want to ask you, Robbie, in the current state of education, what would you say is your current edu kryptonite?[00:50:00]

[00:50:02] Fonz: I would say

[00:50:02] Robby: currently it would probably be, uh, bureaucracy and bureaucracy sometime is like, uh, the over regulation of things and just this, the slow process of things. And sometimes it's important to go slow and obviously it's important to dot your i's, cross your t's, the whole, the whole thing. But, um, we have a very unique lens of being able to work with private schools, charter schools, and public schools.

[00:50:30] Robby: Um, and I can tell you, When you work with a private school or a charter school, what's great about it is that You can go in there and talk about your vision, how you can support the school, the principal or director can look at you and be like, we love it. Let's go, let's move. And then we're going in there making phenomenal drastic changes that are really empowering that school that are just, you know, we're lighting things up and it's, you just see immediate impact.

[00:50:55] Robby: Whereas you work with the public schools and it's like, you got to take a lot of steps to get [00:51:00] to the decision makers. And then when you get there, it's like, okay, you can do it, but you can do like this much of what you wanted to do. And so because of that, you're. Less impactful because of these bureaucratic steps.

[00:51:10] Robby: And so, uh, I'm not gonna say it's complete kryptonite. We're still able to, you know, work within those boundaries, but it's definitely something that, um, slows us down. And when you see the impact you're able to make in the schools that say yes, and you work with them and they're, they make these changes.

[00:51:25] Robby: It's tough because you're like, oh, just, just say yes. So we can just make these great changes and, and help empower your kids and teachers. So that's kind of the challenge.

[00:51:35] Fonz: Question number two, Robbie, is if you could have a billboard with anything on it, what would it be and why?

[00:51:44] Robby: If I could have a billboard, uh, that could say anything on it, and let's just stay on topic, we're sticking with the education realm here.

[00:51:51] Robby: Um, it would probably say something along the lines of Puerto Rico, is America to [00:52:00] let's build some ropes together. And it would, and it would have some sort of rope and kids getting pulled up, you know, to be at the same level as, you know, New York or Massachusetts or the Texas or California or any of the great States, uh, on the mainland.

[00:52:17] Fonz: That's a great message, Robbie. And I think that's been, you know, kind of that underlying message throughout everything that you've shared, uh, is just really helping students, helping teachers, just giving them that, that opportunity for success. So that is definitely a great sign. And the last question, Robbie is if you can trade places with one person for a single day, who would that person be and why?

[00:52:41] Robby: Ah, that's a great question. Um, do we have to stick to education? No, you don't have to stick to education. It could be anybody. Um, I mean, there's so many great people you can choose. It would probably be, uh, I'm going to say [00:53:00] Elon Musk. And the reason I'm going to say Elon Musk is because in my opinion, he is one of the most, you know, for good, bad, the other, whatever your opinion is on the guy, I think he's one of the most impactful humans on the planet in terms of the companies he's been able to build.

[00:53:18] Robby: the way he runs his businesses, and just the way he communicates, and the way his brain works. So, this is someone who, um, he's the number one Diablo III player in the world, or whatever, in America. He's, uh, building spaceships that can be caught by, by rockets, uh, they can be, you know, be reused and, and caught.

[00:53:40] Robby: He's got Tesla and he's rejuvenating that. He's got Neuralink. He's got the, um, you know, the, that, that tunnel business, boring company. Um, he's doing Doge now, and I'm not saying that I agree with everything he's doing, but it's more so that just this is someone's brain. That is [00:54:00] so high powered or just it's not to give him credit for everything, but I just think he's such an interesting human Um, and I think he's pushing humanity forward in his own way And I just think uh, it would be interesting to see Whether i'm spending a day with him to like, how do you do it?

[00:54:18] Robby: how do you manage all these companies and tweet a thousand times a day and you know know so much about the brain and know so much about digging and Engineering and all those kinds of things or if I was inside of his brain and just seeing how fast he was How fast is that computer running? So yeah, that's just someone I think that would be very interesting to, uh, spend one day with, I'm not saying a whole lifetime, but just definitely one day.

[00:54:41] Robby: It'd be interesting to shadow him to see how his, he's able to accomplish so much in one day.

[00:54:46] Fonz: Great answer, Robbie. Robbie, thank you so much. This has been a wonderful conversation. Just definitely bucket filling just because just hearing your story and what you've been able to do based on what you saw and then what you've [00:55:00] Bringing in the experience that you've had, you know, international experience, local experience, and bringing all that to the people of Puerto Rico and the work that you're doing through tech, my school, I definitely applaud you.

[00:55:12] Fonz: Uh, it's an honor to have you here. And I definitely look forward to this conference that will be coming up next month. So appreciate the work that you're doing and for all our audience members, make sure that you connect with Robbie connect with tech, my school. org, all of the information. We'll be in the show notes as well.

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